chmur
07-28 12:33 AM
No one can realistically claim a moral high ground here - neither EB2 nor EB3. and that includes me too! Each one of us here are looking for self interest, period. No amount of calls to empathy/sympathy/solidarity will change that.
For example, I'll get behind the whole "restore the old overflow logic for EB3" campaign in a heartbeat if we can have a consensus that EB3 will share the resulting overflow with EB3 other workers category too. EB3 other workers category is typically in worse shape than EB3-I so all the arguments presented here for EB3 (length of wait and frustration, unfairness of it all etc.) apply equally or more to the EB3 other workers. Any takers for this proposal?
So please see all this for what it is and stop the endless debate. You can not realistically expect EB2s to support any campaign that directly harm their interests. EB3s of course have every right to run whatever campaign they wish but also accept that it *will* split active IV membership (rare as it is) along those lines vertically. That's why the calls to stick to "common minimum program" of visa re-capture. Only those campaigns that don't have conflict of interests will be able to draw whole IV membership behind them. It's human nature - plain and simple.
Agreed. The resource(Visa numbers) is fixed and scarce. so it is natural that everyone will fight with whatever they can to access them , unless the resource is expanded (Recapture)
EB3-I will be foolish to expect EB2-I's to help them out .
IMO, IV has sensed this and maintained a dignified silence . They really cannot take a position on this and still function as objective forum .
I think none of us should force them either ...IV has larger objective of increasing the pie and we should all support it.
Where i disagree is why should EB3-I lobbying should split IV . I see no reason in that.
For example, I'll get behind the whole "restore the old overflow logic for EB3" campaign in a heartbeat if we can have a consensus that EB3 will share the resulting overflow with EB3 other workers category too. EB3 other workers category is typically in worse shape than EB3-I so all the arguments presented here for EB3 (length of wait and frustration, unfairness of it all etc.) apply equally or more to the EB3 other workers. Any takers for this proposal?
So please see all this for what it is and stop the endless debate. You can not realistically expect EB2s to support any campaign that directly harm their interests. EB3s of course have every right to run whatever campaign they wish but also accept that it *will* split active IV membership (rare as it is) along those lines vertically. That's why the calls to stick to "common minimum program" of visa re-capture. Only those campaigns that don't have conflict of interests will be able to draw whole IV membership behind them. It's human nature - plain and simple.
Agreed. The resource(Visa numbers) is fixed and scarce. so it is natural that everyone will fight with whatever they can to access them , unless the resource is expanded (Recapture)
EB3-I will be foolish to expect EB2-I's to help them out .
IMO, IV has sensed this and maintained a dignified silence . They really cannot take a position on this and still function as objective forum .
I think none of us should force them either ...IV has larger objective of increasing the pie and we should all support it.
Where i disagree is why should EB3-I lobbying should split IV . I see no reason in that.
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mchundi
12-15 02:09 AM
I myself will not support for skill Bill in current form. Too much H1b numbers will not only create a problem for US citizens it will also for current H1bs as well future H1bs. That 20% automatic adjustment and exemption for Cap for MS persons will increase supply and it will be tough to find a job if too many people are in the market. There are abundant jobs in India. Let people wait in India for 1 or 2 years to come here. Sustained immigration without increasing unemployment is better for US as well as potential immigrants. Otherwise Hate will increase. It may be easy to talk Capitalism and fittest will survive. When those people talking will be unemployed for more than 6 months with kids in the family will realise the truth. In the Forum most of the people are young and they did not face any issue other than Green card.
But speed with which Corporations and Lawyers are working the Skill bill be passed in current form soon. We will wait and see after 3 years after increasing H1B. My prediction is Limited increase in H1 with Moderate increase in GC numbers will solve the problem for all the gc waiting people without big reaction from anti immigrants and that will boost sustained immigration.
Well, it is not a perfect world. It is not a perfect system. When CIR comes up every group will push for their interests. If u send a mail to any Senator, all u get is a standard reply about H1-B. It will be impossible to educate every ligislator. We have to do the best we can to voice our concerns and go with the tide. We cannot nitpick the sections of the CIR and tell the legislators vote only for these. We just make sure that our issues are addressed in whatever bill comes up.
But speed with which Corporations and Lawyers are working the Skill bill be passed in current form soon. We will wait and see after 3 years after increasing H1B. My prediction is Limited increase in H1 with Moderate increase in GC numbers will solve the problem for all the gc waiting people without big reaction from anti immigrants and that will boost sustained immigration.
Well, it is not a perfect world. It is not a perfect system. When CIR comes up every group will push for their interests. If u send a mail to any Senator, all u get is a standard reply about H1-B. It will be impossible to educate every ligislator. We have to do the best we can to voice our concerns and go with the tide. We cannot nitpick the sections of the CIR and tell the legislators vote only for these. We just make sure that our issues are addressed in whatever bill comes up.
cr52401
06-11 10:44 PM
My bank in Bank of America. I print them and try to do any trick to read the number. No way. I am going to call customer service and ask her to read the number if she can. I applied for my wife and one child.
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lynliu
05-28 11:18 PM
Me, spouse and a friend sent emails to the above Senator and will call them tomorrow.
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nixstor
07-07 10:12 PM
That's nice to hear. Can he guess what would be the likely outcome? If the judge just takes USCIS/DOS to task then it doesn't help us.
1. Will they make the July visa bulletin current again?
2. If not, will they allow everyone to file for EAD and AP?
3. If neither #1 nor #2, will there be any financial reimbursement?
Regards,
Jayant
It gets interesting. Doesn't it? Even if the court agrees that this is a fiasco and would like to compensate the beneficiaries by allowing us to file for 485, it would be in direct violation of the law that " there must be a number available on the day of filing ".We don't have any numbers. Do we? My point is, will a judicial system go out of the box and allow us to file when there are no visa numbers available? The only way is get numbers and make every one file and the only way for that is to undo what the USCIS has done in the last 2 weeks of June. Just my thoughts. I am ready to take anything positive out of this because I have least hopes pegged on the law suit.
1. Will they make the July visa bulletin current again?
2. If not, will they allow everyone to file for EAD and AP?
3. If neither #1 nor #2, will there be any financial reimbursement?
Regards,
Jayant
It gets interesting. Doesn't it? Even if the court agrees that this is a fiasco and would like to compensate the beneficiaries by allowing us to file for 485, it would be in direct violation of the law that " there must be a number available on the day of filing ".We don't have any numbers. Do we? My point is, will a judicial system go out of the box and allow us to file when there are no visa numbers available? The only way is get numbers and make every one file and the only way for that is to undo what the USCIS has done in the last 2 weeks of June. Just my thoughts. I am ready to take anything positive out of this because I have least hopes pegged on the law suit.
simple1
05-01 02:35 PM
This is my understanding. Please take time to read INA, I485 application and current VB.
1. The category of the derivative and quota of derivative is not related to I485.
All that matter at the time of derivative I485 application is the
a) primary's priority date is current
b) primary's I485/AOS application pending.
read the I485 application again Part2 option b. "My spouse or parent applied for adjustment of status or"
Gurus, Forum-Attorneys, IV-Core, feel free to correct me.
2. We are more concerned about the quota. where the derivative falls. I strongly believe they must be out of EB2 quota and placed under FB2A.
There may be a chance that Eb2 india will touch 2008 in a year. and F2b will be at 2006. How dependet can file 485 as if they counted against F2A their date is not current.
1. The category of the derivative and quota of derivative is not related to I485.
All that matter at the time of derivative I485 application is the
a) primary's priority date is current
b) primary's I485/AOS application pending.
read the I485 application again Part2 option b. "My spouse or parent applied for adjustment of status or"
Gurus, Forum-Attorneys, IV-Core, feel free to correct me.
2. We are more concerned about the quota. where the derivative falls. I strongly believe they must be out of EB2 quota and placed under FB2A.
There may be a chance that Eb2 india will touch 2008 in a year. and F2b will be at 2006. How dependet can file 485 as if they counted against F2A their date is not current.
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chalamcharla
10-02 09:04 PM
Hello,
Reached I 485 on July5th ,9:17a.m to NSC and signed by R.WILLIAMS.
Checks Not cashed yet.
waiting ...:mad::mad::mad::mad:
Reached I 485 on July5th ,9:17a.m to NSC and signed by R.WILLIAMS.
Checks Not cashed yet.
waiting ...:mad::mad::mad::mad:
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rustum
09-27 03:25 PM
How much tense I should feel!!! Applied on July 23rd at NSC and no news so far.
Anyone in the same boat?
Thanks,
-rk.
Application reached on 27th NSC. I am also waiting for news.
Anyone in the same boat?
Thanks,
-rk.
Application reached on 27th NSC. I am also waiting for news.
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mirage
03-26 11:26 AM
No I have no proof to substintiate that, but I have read it on few forums here and there, I live in a very small city in NY, I know atleast 15 people with their PD in early 2003, That tells me the extent of problem, how many would there be in NJ, CA, IL, TX, VA etc. The only relief would be people who would convert to EB2 and leave that space. Labor Substition was a devil which has created most of this problem as I can see there are hardly 15-20% original beneficiaries for these 2002-2003 Labors.
Are we sure that there are around 5-6k EB3 pending in the years 2002 and 2003. If thats true then it will take atleast 6 more years to process all the EB3's for 2002 and 2003 :(
Are we sure that there are around 5-6k EB3 pending in the years 2002 and 2003. If thats true then it will take atleast 6 more years to process all the EB3's for 2002 and 2003 :(
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jguharaman
11-21 09:20 AM
Mehul
This was the most shocking thread I've read.
Please read this...
http://www.divyayoga.com/pranayamRevolution.htm
I recently personally heard of a person who was cured from a chronic cancer because of Pranayama.
I'm passing you the email of the instructor who I know in Bangalore through a private message to you
This was the most shocking thread I've read.
Please read this...
http://www.divyayoga.com/pranayamRevolution.htm
I recently personally heard of a person who was cured from a chronic cancer because of Pranayama.
I'm passing you the email of the instructor who I know in Bangalore through a private message to you
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prince_waiting
08-13 11:58 PM
I filed concurrently for I140 and AOS by sending in the application packet today. My lawyer suggested that even though the USCIS receives the packet tomorrow but are not able to receipt it before the 17th they can reject the it. I am a little confused about his advice, can anyone please provide a clue and sooth my nerves? It would be a tremendous obligation.
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mpadapa
08-18 04:16 PM
8 pages of little substance..:D
Problem: USCIS is not following FIFO
Why are they not following FIFO: Becoz they don't want to waste visa's. If I am USCIS what am I supposed to do. If I waste visa I get smacked. If I try to use up visa I get smacked ;) So what am I supposed to do with the limited resources:confused:
SOLUTION
Provide a provision for USCIS to automatically recapture unused visa's - this will give USCIS a buffer so that they don't act crazy in the last quarter - This provision already exists in HR 5882, this benefits everyone
Short Term - Gather a group of affected ppl and meet with USCIS and Immigration subcommittee chair's and present the issue and let Congress put pressure on USCIS to follow FIFO.
Note: My understanding is that USCIS is not doing any unlawful thing (guidelines aren't a law) by not following FIFO, but however it is unfair.
Best solution is HR 5882, it benefits everyone
It is a shame to see high-skilled folks stoop to such low-levels (EB2-3 fights) just to get a card. Please have basic etiquette - respect for fellow professionals. EB1/EB2/EB3 is just a classification based on job description, America needs every category, so please respect those category members. Every category is inter depended on each other. For example: don't tell me that an EB1/2 fellow doesn't require EB3 folks for his/her professional growth.
Please stop this EB1/2/3 category fights and focus on a long lasting solution to the retrogression problem.
Let us have a healthy debate to solve the problem rather than fighting over silly comments..
Problem: USCIS is not following FIFO
Why are they not following FIFO: Becoz they don't want to waste visa's. If I am USCIS what am I supposed to do. If I waste visa I get smacked. If I try to use up visa I get smacked ;) So what am I supposed to do with the limited resources:confused:
SOLUTION
Provide a provision for USCIS to automatically recapture unused visa's - this will give USCIS a buffer so that they don't act crazy in the last quarter - This provision already exists in HR 5882, this benefits everyone
Short Term - Gather a group of affected ppl and meet with USCIS and Immigration subcommittee chair's and present the issue and let Congress put pressure on USCIS to follow FIFO.
Note: My understanding is that USCIS is not doing any unlawful thing (guidelines aren't a law) by not following FIFO, but however it is unfair.
Best solution is HR 5882, it benefits everyone
It is a shame to see high-skilled folks stoop to such low-levels (EB2-3 fights) just to get a card. Please have basic etiquette - respect for fellow professionals. EB1/EB2/EB3 is just a classification based on job description, America needs every category, so please respect those category members. Every category is inter depended on each other. For example: don't tell me that an EB1/2 fellow doesn't require EB3 folks for his/her professional growth.
Please stop this EB1/2/3 category fights and focus on a long lasting solution to the retrogression problem.
Let us have a healthy debate to solve the problem rather than fighting over silly comments..
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tnite
11-21 09:20 AM
Gurus,
I have a unique position. couple of weeks back I was told that have fatal cancer and won't live pass 4-6 months. After recovering from initial shock I am wondering if my wife will be able to continue her american dream or she will have to head home after me.
I have filed 485 with approved 140 back in june, 2007 with PD of March, 2003
Please help.
Mehul
I wish you and your family the best . As someone already mentioned miracles have happened and hope that it will be the case in your situation.
I have a unique position. couple of weeks back I was told that have fatal cancer and won't live pass 4-6 months. After recovering from initial shock I am wondering if my wife will be able to continue her american dream or she will have to head home after me.
I have filed 485 with approved 140 back in june, 2007 with PD of March, 2003
Please help.
Mehul
I wish you and your family the best . As someone already mentioned miracles have happened and hope that it will be the case in your situation.
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abq_gc
08-18 01:16 PM
I think we have a provable point as per the USCIS CSR msg "We approve all cases based on the order they are received". So basically it says Approval based on ND. Approving Oct'07 NDs and not approving (not even touching) Jul-Sep NDs makes a valid point.
I am not sure how to put our case based on PD because to me PD serves the purpose of passport to get in and then line is formed by ND. But sure, if anyone could put some thoughts and define the situation, I think its well worth to try something different now.
yeah.. even ND is not being followed... and why give a PD when they have to follow ND anyways ? So wait for 5 years in queue and then due to USCIS lottery system my application gets assigned a later ND... i have to suffer ??? WOW ... that's nice.... that's what's called INJUSTICE...
I am not sure how to put our case based on PD because to me PD serves the purpose of passport to get in and then line is formed by ND. But sure, if anyone could put some thoughts and define the situation, I think its well worth to try something different now.
yeah.. even ND is not being followed... and why give a PD when they have to follow ND anyways ? So wait for 5 years in queue and then due to USCIS lottery system my application gets assigned a later ND... i have to suffer ??? WOW ... that's nice.... that's what's called INJUSTICE...
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vinnysuru
04-18 07:28 PM
Hi All,
I have to do the landing before june, 2008.
I have already used AP to enter US after my last trip to India. So IO at POE canada will know that I have pending 485. don't know how to handle this situation.
I am planning to do the landing in last week of may via Niagra falls. (toronto)
anyone with similar status done landing please share your experience.
Thanks
Yep, me too. Landing memorial day weekend via Niagara/ Buffalo!:D
I have to do the landing before june, 2008.
I have already used AP to enter US after my last trip to India. So IO at POE canada will know that I have pending 485. don't know how to handle this situation.
I am planning to do the landing in last week of may via Niagra falls. (toronto)
anyone with similar status done landing please share your experience.
Thanks
Yep, me too. Landing memorial day weekend via Niagara/ Buffalo!:D
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man-woman-and-gc
09-16 10:40 AM
Dudes & Dudettes,
Hasnt the issue of processing order been beaten to death?
I understand the momentum here....not trying to rain on a parade or anything...but shouldnt we be a little practical. How long is litigation going to take? Wont only naive lawyers even take this up?
USCIS can always pull the security reason trump card here.
moreover, during the last quarter...in the effort to not waste visas, low hanging easy to approve cases with later priority dates have gotten approved. wudnt u rather have that than visas going waste?
We have been patient for a very long time....lets see how the dates move in the 1st 2 quarters of fiscal 09.
My personal suggestion....stop worrying aout GC...there are much bigger things in life to worry about. :)
What do we have to lose here by this effort:
1) $100 or so
2) A few hrs of effort in mobilising and motivating people
What do we have to gain:
1) A sense of unity if we can get anywhere close to 1000 supporters
2) A chance to win against years of injustice and broken system.
Comparing both...I'm definitely in.
Also, we will leave it to the Lawyers to make the case..we all know it is a broken system and loopholes in it definitely will form a case. However, all that are talks up in the air if we cannot have 1000 people support this. First and foremost, we have to create a sound force. Only then we can talk about a future step. With a thousand pledged supporters and 100 grand behind us, we should not underestimate the force.
Hasnt the issue of processing order been beaten to death?
I understand the momentum here....not trying to rain on a parade or anything...but shouldnt we be a little practical. How long is litigation going to take? Wont only naive lawyers even take this up?
USCIS can always pull the security reason trump card here.
moreover, during the last quarter...in the effort to not waste visas, low hanging easy to approve cases with later priority dates have gotten approved. wudnt u rather have that than visas going waste?
We have been patient for a very long time....lets see how the dates move in the 1st 2 quarters of fiscal 09.
My personal suggestion....stop worrying aout GC...there are much bigger things in life to worry about. :)
What do we have to lose here by this effort:
1) $100 or so
2) A few hrs of effort in mobilising and motivating people
What do we have to gain:
1) A sense of unity if we can get anywhere close to 1000 supporters
2) A chance to win against years of injustice and broken system.
Comparing both...I'm definitely in.
Also, we will leave it to the Lawyers to make the case..we all know it is a broken system and loopholes in it definitely will form a case. However, all that are talks up in the air if we cannot have 1000 people support this. First and foremost, we have to create a sound force. Only then we can talk about a future step. With a thousand pledged supporters and 100 grand behind us, we should not underestimate the force.
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anzerraja
07-20 02:36 PM
See my other post. People responded very specifically because this drive was directed towards a certain cause. I think we need to respect that.
Zoooom, Anzeraja & All pledgers,
Thanks for driving this effort. Subsequent to Aman's post, we can direct these pledges to the normal contribution drive for IV.
It was amazing to see such response to call for funds for Aman and other core members.
Zoooom, Anzeraja & All pledgers,
Thanks for driving this effort. Subsequent to Aman's post, we can direct these pledges to the normal contribution drive for IV.
It was amazing to see such response to call for funds for Aman and other core members.
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repy_ram
07-20 07:25 AM
I am in too. :)
Pledging $100 for this effort.
Pledging $100 for this effort.
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tonyHK12
11-18 01:50 PM
I will donate 100 dollars if they make any changes in DREAM Act wrt to Employment based immigration.
Even I participated in the campaign, but I don't think it will impact anything for us.
If you mean IV and are waiting for results to support, consider that we have hired a Lobby in DC and are spending a lot of money in campaigns.
we cannot just give them an IOU and say, we'll pay you later and only if you succeed.
No business works like that. we don't have a charge card to dispute transactions.
Even I participated in the campaign, but I don't think it will impact anything for us.
If you mean IV and are waiting for results to support, consider that we have hired a Lobby in DC and are spending a lot of money in campaigns.
we cannot just give them an IOU and say, we'll pay you later and only if you succeed.
No business works like that. we don't have a charge card to dispute transactions.
simplyforjunk
08-15 06:31 PM
Hi,
My I140 was approved from TSC, and 485 sent to NSC (delivered on Jul 24, 2007). Still no receipt, but I140 has the LUD as Jul 28, 2007. Just hope that this means transfer to TSC on Jul 28. Any opinions?
Thanks
My I140 was approved from TSC, and 485 sent to NSC (delivered on Jul 24, 2007). Still no receipt, but I140 has the LUD as Jul 28, 2007. Just hope that this means transfer to TSC on Jul 28. Any opinions?
Thanks
viswanadh73
11-18 02:19 PM
I am wondering none of these senators who responded as of now understand our request for adding the provision of recapturing unused visas. Please read below response from IOWA senator and not even one word about our request.
I appreciate you taking the time to share with me your views regarding S. 729, the Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act. The views of my fellow Iowans are an essential component of my decision making process as a Member of Congress.
As you may know, Senator Richard Durbin introduced S. 729 on March 26, 2009. This legislation would allow unlawful immigrants who entered the U.S. as minors to gain eligibility for higher education benefits based on state residence, unless a U.S. citizen is eligible for the same benefits. S. 729 has been referred to the Senate Committee on Judiciary. You will be interested to know that Congressman Howard Berman introduced H.R. 1751, the American Dream Act, on March 26, 2009, which would create a similar law. H.R. 1751 has been referred to the House Committee on Judiciary and the House Committee on Education and Labor. Please be assured that I will keep your views in mind should the full House consider this issue during the 111th Congress.
Our nation faces many challenges, and economic recovery is vital if we are to meet them. As a senior member of the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, I will continue building upon the job creation opportunities that I have delivered to the 3rd District in order to expand commerce, spur business development, and provide economic opportunity to all. I periodically provide electronic updates on issues I think my constituents might be interested in. If you would like to receive the E-newsletter, please sign up at my Web Site at Congressman Leonard Boswell : Home (http://boswell.house.gov). As always, please feel free to contact me or my office if ever you think we may be of assistance.
Sincerely,
Leonard L. Boswell
Member of Congress
I appreciate you taking the time to share with me your views regarding S. 729, the Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act. The views of my fellow Iowans are an essential component of my decision making process as a Member of Congress.
As you may know, Senator Richard Durbin introduced S. 729 on March 26, 2009. This legislation would allow unlawful immigrants who entered the U.S. as minors to gain eligibility for higher education benefits based on state residence, unless a U.S. citizen is eligible for the same benefits. S. 729 has been referred to the Senate Committee on Judiciary. You will be interested to know that Congressman Howard Berman introduced H.R. 1751, the American Dream Act, on March 26, 2009, which would create a similar law. H.R. 1751 has been referred to the House Committee on Judiciary and the House Committee on Education and Labor. Please be assured that I will keep your views in mind should the full House consider this issue during the 111th Congress.
Our nation faces many challenges, and economic recovery is vital if we are to meet them. As a senior member of the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, I will continue building upon the job creation opportunities that I have delivered to the 3rd District in order to expand commerce, spur business development, and provide economic opportunity to all. I periodically provide electronic updates on issues I think my constituents might be interested in. If you would like to receive the E-newsletter, please sign up at my Web Site at Congressman Leonard Boswell : Home (http://boswell.house.gov). As always, please feel free to contact me or my office if ever you think we may be of assistance.
Sincerely,
Leonard L. Boswell
Member of Congress
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